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[STORY] (STORY) CWAL Classics: Mu Goes to WHEEEplanet (STORY) - Forks 13:00:11 09/05/10 (1)
- Whatever happened to old Charlie? [NT] - Loki 20:48:33 09/05/10 (0) [IMP]
[STORY] The StarCraft 2 Campaign Ravil Wants to Play - Mission 7b: "Die for the Swarm" - Ravil 17:34:53 08/31/10 (22)
- One change I'd probably do is not have another cerebrate outside of the one you captured, as I take it he was the one used during Brood War and thus should be the last cerebrate left (though canonically Kerrigan killed him as well when she was done). Unless he's actually important to the plot or something. Also to actually make this you would actually need some sort of art persons [NT] - Palin 19:38:51 08/31/10 (14)
  - Interesting. (thoughts within) - Ravil 19:54:24 08/31/10 (13)
    - No cerebrate art anywhere in SC2. I'm not sure if the conversion to non-cerebrates is ever really delved into anywhere, but I know canonically there basically aren't any left. My guess would be things like the Queens/Overlords got promoted given that the Overlord is the default Zerg portrait on buildings. *shrug* [NT] - Palin 20:31:34 08/31/10 (12)
      - I assumed Kerrigan assumed that role? What'd be neat is if it turned out to be some plain old ordinary Terran pulling the Zerg strings. [NT] - Rotten 09:14:10 09/01/10 (7)
        Well, the original Overmind was the size of a skyscJoystickJr and *it* had to create cerebrates to delegate authority to once the Swarm got too big. I can't imagine that 5'10" Kerrigan would be able to manage the entire Swarm better than the Overmind without significant help, no matter how powerful a psychic she is. [NT] - Ravil 10:00:58 09/01/10 (6)
        Maybe it just made them because it was lonely. [NT] - Palin 10:47:37 09/01/10 (4)
        This is actually sort of why I thought the idea of Kerrigan killing all the Cerebrates was kind of a stupid plot point. Wouldn't she get really bored? [NT] - Fron@Work 15:22:27 09/01/10 (3)
        I kinda like the idea of her being crazy paranoid about anyone else who could possibly usurp her power-base to the point of basically eliminating all the controllers of the Swam and upgrading some of the grunts to be slightly more brainy but nowhere near the level where they could ever pose a threat. While she's all evil and JoystickJ, she's actually the most insecure person in the sector. - Palin 16:07:29 09/01/10 (2)
        It can be *my* story. That's an excellent characterization, and if I eliminate mention of the second cerebrate from Mission 7b here then it jives perfectly with what I've got planned. [NT] - Ravil 18:21:56 09/01/10 (1)
        It's kind of hinted at in Brood War already, when she's manipulating everyone to kill the new Overmind. A sort of manic focus on not being under anyone else's power again, ever, brought on by the trauma of what happened to her during the original game. [NT] - Fron 19:12:18 09/01/10 (0)
        Maybe WE are the Overmind, man. Think about it. *takes another bong hit* [NT] - Rotten 10:36:58 09/01/10 (0)
      - Well, the second cerebrate is superfluous anyway. The one they recovered could be the "last" cerebrate, sent out by Kerrigan to wipe out what was left of the UED after Brood War. [NT] - Ravil 22:29:53 08/31/10 (2)
        Bonus points if it turns out she completely forgot about him. [NT] - Fron 23:32:12 08/31/10 (0)
        That's probably what I'd go with. Personally I've got my own cerebrate in the mini-story I'm thinking of for my contest map, but he's very good at hiding is all. [NT] - Palin 22:41:31 08/31/10 (0)
      - Didn't Kerrigan promise to spare that cerebrate that helped her in the Zerg Brood War campaign? But then again, she's a backstabbing JoystickJ. [nt] - If You Ain't Platinum, You Ain't S--- 21:50:27 08/31/10 (0)
- I'm kind of disappointed. - Fron 18:10:00 08/31/10 (6)
  - I'm kind of a mixture of green and blue. [NT] - Teal 18:51:53 08/31/10 (3)
    - wot [NT] - Ravil 18:53:10 08/31/10 (2)
      - Prove me wrong, Ravil. Prove me wrong. [NT] - Teal 18:53:32 08/31/10 (1)
        The StarCraft 2 Campaign Ravil Wants to Play - Mission 8: "Teal is Yellow in Disguise." [NT] - Ravil 18:55:05 08/31/10 (0)
  - I considered having him speak in verse. - Ravil 18:51:16 08/31/10 (0)
[STORY] The StarCraft 2 Campaign Ravil Wants to Play - Story Branching Point and Mission 7a: "Redemption." (Now organized in a crude-if-handy website) - Ravil 19:59:24 08/30/10 (7)
- The only thing I'd be a bit leary of is the wreckage thing--I mean if the fighting is in one quarter of the map, that's some crazy bouncing on the wreckage if it lands in the other quarters. [NT] - Palin 22:03:34 08/30/10 (3)
  - I have no idea how to program the special effects, so the descriptions of stuff like that are based on my imagination rather than what's possible with the editor. [NT] - Ravil 22:05:53 08/30/10 (2)
    - I meant more the physics. Unless the hidden part is on some sort of giant mountain, or the hybrids can throw stuff really really really far. [NT] - Palin 23:12:05 08/30/10 (1)
      - Both of those are distinct possibilities. [NT] - Ravil 08:17:10 08/31/10 (0)
- I'm running out of ways to say I like these. 7a is certainly a much better way to introduce Our Fabulous New Villains than ancient prophecies and whatnot. [NT] - Fron 21:54:53 08/30/10 (2)
  - I'm sure it will shock you to learn that I'm not planning on taking anything close to Blizzard's direction with the Fabulous New Villains. Glad it was enjoyable! [NT] - Ravil 22:00:08 08/30/10 (0)
[STORY] The StarCraft 2 Campaign Ravil Wants to Play -- Mission 6: "The Great Escape." (Plus two "interludes") - Ravil 09:50:36 08/26/10 (22)
- I like your reinterpretation of Raynor as kind of an idiot. - Fron@Work 11:40:05 08/26/10 (18)
  - See, at first--when people are describing the campaign proper--I assumed that he was meant to be seen as flawed in his simple-minded and self-serving concept of nobility. There's nothing worse than emotional, thick-headed JoystickJ-kickers, and yet it seems like we're meant to take him seriously as the protagonist? [NT] - Sloth Meat for Gentlemen 15:48:10 08/26/10 (3)
    - No, you're definitely supposed to identify with him as a hero. He's "flawed" because he drinks too much (though he never acts drunk) and gets depressed sometimes. - Fron@Work 15:53:46 08/26/10 (2)
      - aaaauuuugh [NT] - Sloth Meat for Gentlemen 15:59:49 08/26/10 (1)
        My feeling exactly. [NT] - Ravil 16:41:32 08/26/10 (0)
  - I thought it fit. In the original StarCraft he's easily manipulated and mostly has pretty limited experience as a soldier and/or leader. I never really believed that he would make a terribly good revolutionary when forced to do it by himself. [NT] - Ravil 14:29:19 08/26/10 (7)
    - Yeah. He isn't a general and the only reason he got as far as he did in SC was because of all the assets he has. It makes no sense that in SC2 he's become a drunk military genius [NT] - Kalledon 14:30:47 08/26/10 (6)
      - As if he did any of the work. It was all Matt Horner. That suave motherJoystickJer is so calm and collected that he'd still have his arms neatly folded behind his back in a knife fight. And win. [NT] - Palin 14:46:20 08/26/10 (1)
        I like that characterization. [NT] - Ravil 18:31:20 08/26/10 (0)
      - Maybe in the next campaign he'll go to rehab. [NT] - Rotten 14:35:07 08/26/10 (0)
      - Also worth noting that he seems to do a lot of drinking in SC2 without it actually having any effect on him whatsoever. [NT] - Ravil 14:32:20 08/26/10 (2)
        Maybe that's where all the cliche speechifying came from. [NT] - Fron@Work 14:37:52 08/26/10 (1)
        Lets kick this liver into overdrive! [NT] - Kalledon 16:17:07 08/26/10 (0)
  - I'd like to write to a version where Terran environmentalists stop the extermination of the Zerg in order to preserve biodiversity and end up getting millions of people killed. Meanwhile the Protoss want to build a Templar Archives right next to the spot where a radical Templar hijacked a Terran Medic ship and crashed it into a Command Center and pwned many SCV's resulting in a "GG" for terrorism. - Rotten 13:34:37 08/26/10 (3)
    - I'm not sure Protoss = Islam is accurate [NT] - Kalledon 14:29:43 08/26/10 (0)
    - Thanks for this. [NT] - Fron@Work 13:42:20 08/26/10 (1)
      - I truly am 1000 times smarter than billions of scientists! [NT] - Rotten 13:50:06 08/26/10 (0)
  - You would. [NT] - Ishpeck 12:17:47 08/26/10 (1)
    - ...okay. [NT] - Fron@Work 12:28:23 08/26/10 (0)
- Interesting. Do you plan to have completely divergent Campaign lines depending on if he sticks with the Raiders or Islington? [NT] - Kalledon 10:58:41 08/26/10 (2)
  - Yup, that's the intention. [NT] - Ravil 11:01:25 08/26/10 (1)
    - Hardcore. [NT] - Fron@Work 11:30:23 08/26/10 (0)
[STORY] The StarCraft 2 Campaign Ravil Wants to Play -- Mission 5: "Message in a Bottle." - Ravil 12:24:41 08/25/10 (14)
- Nice progression [NT] - Kalledon 13:37:09 08/25/10 (0)
- I'm loving these. I wish they were the real campaign. [NT] - Fron@Work 13:02:16 08/25/10 (0)
- You had to wait to travel time? How confusing. Also: Awesome! [NT] - The V Man 12:55:00 08/25/10 (0)
- Is someone versed enough in the SC2 editor to make these? [NT] - Psycho Sam! 12:34:41 08/25/10 (10)
  - After mid-September yes. And since the missions seem to be largely using base units, it should be pretty easy to put together, although distribution of an actual campaign might be a nightmare with the publishing system. [NT] - Palin 15:36:51 08/25/10 (2)
    - They've got to have some kind of mechanism for it. [NT] - Ravil 18:42:10 08/25/10 (1)
      - Actually seems like you can just drag a map to the SC2 application and it'll load up fine, just from in-game there doesn't seem like a way to do it unless it's a published map. Not sure how or if map linking works. [NT] - Palin 21:01:27 08/25/10 (0)
  - We could get CWALers to record the dialogue, like with that CWAL Audio back in the day. [NT] - Psycho Sam! 12:35:07 08/25/10 (6)
    - The cinematics might be tough. We could do them as MSPaint stick-figure drawings. [NT] - Ravil 14:57:50 08/25/10 (2)
      - Hand drawn. By me. On lined note paper. Portfolio within. - Fron@Work 15:24:06 08/25/10 (1)
        Presented in slideshow form. I appoint Fron as Art Director for the project. [NT] - Ravil 15:41:05 08/25/10 (0)
    - We should hope very much that it is NOT like CWAL Audio. [NT] - The V Man 12:52:31 08/25/10 (2)
      - I've still got Fron's recorded stuff for that on my hard drive for some reason, from when we threatened to have MissCheetah record his lines if he didn't get to it. [NT] - Psycho Sam! 14:31:02 08/25/10 (1)
        Hah, awesome. [NT] - The V Man 15:22:21 08/25/10 (0)