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I wish I believed that Deus Ex 3 will be awesome... (sigh) [NT] - Pez 06:45:20 03/12/10 (1)
- I hear ya brutha. [NT] - Tssha 07:00:44 03/12/10 (0)
(LINK) Shaky threesomes are fun, aren't they? - The Man with the Platinum Gun 01:41:11 03/12/10 (0)
Hey TD... - The Man with the Platinum Gun 22:56:33 03/11/10 (5)
- You know, nowadays, Steven Seagal is a cop. - Tssha 05:45:08 03/12/10 (0)
- OH MY GOD MORE THAN ONE PERSON (fictional or otherwise) HAS THE SAME LAST NAME THIS CANNOT BE [NT] - Vektor 00:29:11 03/12/10 (1)
  - Ryback is not a particularly common name. I thought it was weird how a character, who is a CS (culinary specialist), in a movie about the Navy has the same last name as some guy in my division who is also a CS. [nt] - The Man with the Platinum Gun 01:04:07 03/12/10 (0)
- Funny, I always thought Under Siege was about terrorists, explosions, and ass beatings. It simply had military(Naval) trappings on it to help facilitate the explosions in particular, that and Battleships look awesome. [NT] - TheDeamon 00:13:41 03/12/10 (0)
- You are in fact in the final debilitating stages of madness. [NT] - Ravil 23:26:40 03/11/10 (0)
Lindsay Graham needs to die in a fire. - Ishpeck 22:31:51 03/11/10 (1)
- Sex bomb, sex bomb, you're my sex bomb, and you can give it to me when I need to come along; Sex bomb, sex bomb, you're my sex bomb, and baby you can turn me on! - Tssha 06:05:30 03/12/10 (0)
This institution's administrative action is some seriously JoystickJed up JoystickJ, even for a school in Mississippi... - The Man with the Platinum Gun 22:25:31 03/11/10 (2)
- Yeah. That's just JoystickJed up. [NT] - Tssha 05:47:22 03/12/10 (0)
- And banned her from wearing a tux, to boot. YOU WILL WEAR A DRESS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT RAWRRRRR IT IS 1950 AGAIN [NT] - Vektor 00:30:42 03/12/10 (0)
[LINK] We got mentioned in Fangoria again. - Archangel 22:24:23 03/11/10 (1)
- This looks really, really neat. [NT] - Tssha 05:54:06 03/12/10 (0)
You realize you're arguing over six seconds, right? It takes longer than that to write this post. In fact, this is probably the most inane argument I've been in in awhile. [NT] - Tssha 15:46:11 11/30/07 (0) - Psycho Sam! 19:46:50 03/11/10 (4)
- I'm thinking of getting business cards printed that list me as "Chef / Freelance Nuisance". [NT] - Psycho Sam! 19:59:40 03/11/10 (3)
  - If only you could make them play back that godawful noise you make as well. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 20:03:02 03/11/10 (2)
    - And a nice watermark... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 20:12:43 03/11/10 (1)
      - Printed with the blood of innocents. [NT] - Vektor 00:32:51 03/12/10 (0)
Alas, my copy of StarCraft and Brood War is on the other side of the country, so you'll all have to play your reindeer games without me. [NT] - Ravil 17:56:26 03/11/10 (5)
- If you had registered it with BNet, you could just download a copy using your own CD key. [NT] - Dark Nexus 19:17:06 03/11/10 (4)
  - I haven't had it installed in close to a decade now. [NT] - Ravil 19:31:01 03/11/10 (3)
    - My suggestion: Ring someone who lives with it and ask them to read you off the code. [NT] - Lothos 19:56:43 03/11/10 (2)
      - It's buried somewhere in the dankest recesses of the ancient mausoleum that is my Mother's Garage, along with everything else I left in Calgary. I wouldn't send anyone in there without an armed escort. [NT] - Ravil 20:23:02 03/11/10 (1)
        It's twenty frack'n bucks. It isn't a big deal now that we have jobs. I'd rather repay than look through my JoystickJ to find a code under three inches of dust [NT] - Pez 06:35:10 03/12/10 (0)
So it's (probably) a rare night tonight in which I will not be busy. Who wants to play Brood War? [NT] - Arcturus 17:32:37 03/11/10 (14)
- ATTN: We've moved back to US East due to latency problems. [NT] - Loki 20:39:45 03/11/10 (0) [IMP]
- Yeah, why not? Last chance I'll have. [NT] - Loki 18:44:51 03/11/10 (11) [IMP]
  - I'll be in Channel CWAL (US West) for the next hour or so. [NT] - Loki 19:02:46 03/11/10 (10) [IMP]
    - I'm still at the office and won't get home for about an hour unfortunately :( [NT] - Arcturus 19:08:05 03/11/10 (9)
      - That's okay. CyberCpeed and I will be playing some 1 on 1 matches. If no one is around just whisper Judas_Loki. [NT] - Loki 19:12:46 03/11/10 (0) [IMP]
      - Damn youse! Well, I'm in the channel too [NT] - CyberCpeed 19:12:43 03/11/10 (7)
        I am in the channel too. [NT] - diefortheswarm 19:30:45 03/11/10 (6)
        Or I was... Nobody was in channel or in game. [NT] - diefortheswarm 19:45:01 03/11/10 (5)
        We went over to US East due to latency [NT] - Loki 20:11:51 03/11/10 (4) [IMP]
        We're back in US West now [NT] - Loki 20:16:13 03/11/10 (3) [IMP]
        I'll be home in about 3 hours if anyone is still up and wanting to play that late [nt] - Midnight 20:25:33 03/11/10 (2)
        I'm going out soon, otherwise hell yes. [NT] - Lothos 21:58:06 03/11/10 (1)
        We'll be in either US West or US East. Currently it's just Midnight and I. [NT] - Loki 22:57:00 03/11/10 (0) [IMP]
- I can play. Time and time zone please. [NT] - diefortheswarm 18:09:15 03/11/10 (0)
Hey Psycho Sam! - Fargoth 15:40:22 03/11/10 (2)
- JoystickJING FARGOTH!!! [NT] - Psycho Sam! 15:42:58 03/11/10 (1)
  - That's right, cry some more! - Fargoth 18:50:00 03/11/10 (0)
Taking builds, training staff, doing support calls. Now I just gotta lose foosball games to dev and I've fully replaced my manager! - Ishpeck 15:26:41 03/11/10 (0)
Rim #5: FREE COFFEE, JoystickJERS! TAKE THAT, FARGOTH! Take that, AND your new hip, and shove it! [NT] - Psycho Sam! 15:21:20 03/11/10 (0)
I have pirated the SC2 Beta. It is *extremely pretty,* and I am *extremely useless.* [NT] - Lothos 13:38:34 03/11/10 (11)
- Jesus Tiberius Christ that was fast. Bloody Computer Terrans... It's been so long... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 17:57:58 03/11/10 (0)
- AI and launcher have been updated again, FYI. You can actually choose your race and colour instead of blindly restarting maps now! - Inconsequential Penguin 14:03:31 03/11/10 (0)
- I also pirated the beta, then realized that nobody seems to have a launcher for the Mac version yet... =\ [NT] - Psycho Sam! 13:57:28 03/11/10 (5)
  - I suppose I could always just burninate it to disc and reboot in Windows... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 14:00:56 03/11/10 (4)
    - And you wonder why windows fanboys continue mocking you over their software dominance [NT] - Bandy 15:02:51 03/11/10 (3) [IMP]
      - I figured it was just on account of their small penises. [NT] - Psycho Sam! 15:11:17 03/11/10 (2)
        Nope, it's cause JoystickJ actually runs on our JoystickJ. [NT] - Bandy 00:46:12 03/12/10 (0) [IMP]
        That's a blatant lie, as I would be happy to demonstrate. [NT] - Vektor 16:50:30 03/11/10 (0)
- The downside to single player is that you're not facing humans. Even if you get thoroughly trounced, you can learn a lot early on from just watching what they did to you in replays. I've been investing fairly little time in it, and I can confidently say that were I to play three vektors at the skill level I started at, I would now walk all over all three of me. - Vektor 13:51:27 03/11/10 (1)
  - I'm not expecting to improve, to be honest. This is more a 'Whee, shiny!' than anything else. I was building units to see what they did. I built a wheeled thingummy and was startled to see it has a FLAMETHROWER. I am thus delighted. Did I build more than one? nnnnno. [NT] - Lothos 14:18:35 03/11/10 (0)
- But the singleplayer AI is enough to threaten someone as dim as me, therefore it's a workable way to explore things. [NT] - Lothos 13:39:21 03/11/10 (0)
Paging Dr. Grorx! Conan needs your help! - djmmm 13:23:24 03/11/10 (1)
- Its a bit dark, but I've seen worse. [NT] - Grorx 15:12:00 03/11/10 (0) [IMP]
Little more info on Civ combat on page 2 of this article: One unit per tile means there will be fewer units, but units will be more powerful, worth more, not as mass-producable, and become hardened as they are successful in combat - making veteran units strategic resources. They seem to just be saying "instead of a stack of doom, this unit of soldiers represents an entire platoon". - Vektor 12:51:20 03/11/10 (0)
Hardware Help Needed - Thorkos 10:48:41 03/11/10 (24) [IMP]
- Well, the Radeon 5770 offers an excellent price/performance ratio, and is already a DX11 card. Nvidia's DX11 offering is rumoured to debut at a high price point, as they service the high-end first before scaling down to mainstream. [NT] - Eye of the Night 12:59:54 03/11/10 (9)
  - Here is a benchmark of Fermi's performance, btw. - Eye of the Night 13:28:39 03/11/10 (7)
    - If you read, you'd have seen that your benchmarks were done using a setup that's most advantageous for ATI and least for nVidia, as the benchmarks were using simultaneous AA and Tesselation. ATI has dedicated tesselation hardware, nVidia does tesselation alongside AA on the CUDA core which slows things down slightly... - Vektor 14:22:25 03/11/10 (6)
      - So, you're saying nVidia chose the wrong test to highlight their card? - Eye of the Night 14:29:53 03/11/10 (3)
        Well I can't see that video at work right now but I'm going to suggest that maybe if one of the new big dx11 technologies that the companies are making noise about is tessellation, then it makes sense that nVidia and ATI would benchmark their tessellation engines? - Vektor 14:45:23 03/11/10 (2)
        That's possible. And it remains a synthetic benchmark of sorts - I'm curious what the game performance will be like, and the final release prices. [NT] - Eye of the Night 14:50:17 03/11/10 (1)
        I can say that it runs very well on my system. I don't have any specifics for you, but I am able to crank a lot of my games up to maximum. [NT] - Tssha 15:07:05 03/11/10 (0)
      - Also, they were testing a dual-gpu versus a single. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 14:23:39 03/11/10 (1)
        ATI designed their GPU for mainstream, serving high-end with dual-gpu cards. Nvidia designed their chip for high end, scaling down for mainstream. So the prices of the 5970 and Fermi should be comparable. [NT] - Eye of the Night 14:51:46 03/11/10 (0)
- I've got a Radeon HD4700, picked it up back in August so it's not near the top-of-the-line anymore, runs fine, haven't had any heat problems, but I've rediscovered the fact that updating Radeon drivers is a huge pain in the ass, compared to Nvidia ones. If you find Nividia and Radeon cares in the same price/performance ballpark, I recommend going Nvidia just for that. [NT] - Fron@Work 11:37:28 03/11/10 (9)
  - What problems do you run into? I never had any problems updating Radeon drivers... [NT] - Eye of the Night 13:01:15 03/11/10 (8)
    - It's not like an upgrade has ever failed, but an opaque set of different version-numbering schemes makes it hard to tell if you even need to upgrade or not. [NT] - Fron@Work 13:26:02 03/11/10 (7)
      - I'm on driver number 10.2 . Previous versions were 10.1, 9.12 and 9.11 . Seems straightforward to me. [NT] - Tssha 13:34:53 03/11/10 (6)
        Last time I went to the drive page it had "catalyst control center" version 9.whatever, and driver version 8.whatever, and actually looking up the driver version installed on my system produced some number that wasn't clearly identifiable as being part of one of those series or the other. [NT] - Fron@Work 13:56:19 03/11/10 (3)
        I was only offered one set of drivers. Older drivers were available through another link, of course, but the most up to date driver was front and centre. [NT] - Tssha 15:09:40 03/11/10 (2)
        No, they weren't different versions. They were different components of the driver package, given confusing, prominently-displayed different version numbering schemes. Like, the driver that came in the package didn't have the same version number as the package itself. [NT] - Fron@Work 15:34:39 03/11/10 (1)
        That's because not every driver component gets updated with every release. All the files that remain unchanged in the update keep their old version number. [NT] - Eye of the Night 16:14:56 03/11/10 (0)
        Yes, the last 2 digits of the year followed by the month of release. [NT] - Eye of the Night 13:37:22 03/11/10 (1)
        I thought that might be the case, I just was never certain. [NT] - Tssha 13:38:00 03/11/10 (0)
- The GeForce 260 GTX was the best price-to-performance-ratio back when I checked a while ago. [More details within] - Mana 11:12:17 03/11/10 (3)
  - Isn't nVidia debuting a new line of 200-series cards soon? They'll almost certainly hit market before SC2 and D3 ship and will both drive the price of older tech down or bring higher performance hardware to the low-mid price range. That said, I haven't run into anything my 260GTX won't run. [NT] - Vektor 12:55:16 03/11/10 (2)
    - Wiki says they're launching the 400-series later this month, although as is stands with the whole multiplat trend video cards are getting further and further ahead of the curve. I gave my brother my old 8800GT and it can run most things either max or pretty high still. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 13:22:15 03/11/10 (1)
      - That's very good to know. [NT] - Mana 13:45:37 03/11/10 (0)
[LINK] HAha! Sony has Wiinus envy! - Ishpeck Supreme Doughnut Delivery Boy of CWAL 08:12:38 03/11/10 (0)
Jayj's Starcraft II Update #1 - Jayj 01:30:21 03/11/10 (23)
- Interestingly, I saw an interview with the lead designer yesterday saying that according to their statistics, Terrans are the weakest race right now. [NT] - Fron@Work 11:39:19 03/11/10 (19)
  - I think he said terrans are winning less than the other two races. I'm not so sure it's the weakest. Also, some wins from the other races use cheesy tactics. [NT] - El Cazador 16:36:36 03/11/10 (10)
    - I... wouldn't that be the definition of weakest? [NT] - Fron 17:27:25 03/11/10 (9)
      - No. It could mean they're harder to use than the other two races or have a less competent player base or people just haven't figured out the quirks yet, but not necessarily weak as in being pushovers. - El Cazador 18:15:57 03/11/10 (3)
        If they're strictly harder to use then that's an imbalance too. The possibility that people simply hadn't figured out how to use them was brought up in the interview. So, we can lengthen the thesis to "the things people know how to do with terrans are weaker than the things people know how to do with zerg and protoss right now". [NT] - Fron 19:01:09 03/11/10 (2)
        Personally, I'm all for them continuing beefing terran up. However, if people "get" how to play the race afterwards, then they'll hve to nerf it back. - El Cazador 23:08:09 03/11/10 (0)
        Yeah, it's entirely probable that this is the case. I'm mostly arguing to be pedantic about the possibility that the sample data MIGHT be skewed by social/behavioural factors. [NT] - Vektor 21:43:14 03/11/10 (0)
      - Depends on the play percentage. If only 15% of the players are picking Terran, even if they win most the time they could have a lower percentage of the total wins. [NT] - Pez 17:57:07 03/11/10 (4)
        They don't do it like that, they do it like EotN said. PvZ is about 50/50, but PvT and TvZ win percentages are both unfavourable for Terran right now. And presumably they're being intelligent about player skill as well. Anyway, I don't have the stats myself, just one sentence from Dustin Browder in an interview, so whatever. [NT] - Fron 18:59:38 03/11/10 (0)
        Don't they use smarter statistics than that? Like the chance of terran beating protoss and the chance of terran beating zerg in 1v1 matches? [NT] - Eye of the Night 18:27:47 03/11/10 (2)
        Right, but assume for a second that all the races are of identical power. If the better players are skewed toward playing zerg/protoss (possibly due to familiarity and practice prior to the nerfs), then the toss/zerg win ratio is going to be higher vs. terrans simply by virtue of the fact that better players are skewed toward using toss/zerg and better players (by definition) win more matches. [NT] - Vektor 18:33:46 03/11/10 (1)
        Yes, that problem still remains - at least until enough matches have been played and they can calculate the score per league on the ladder, which by then should even out skill differences somewhat. [NT] - Eye of the Night 19:30:50 03/11/10 (0)
  - It's possible that, at the high skill levels, all the little tricks Terrans pull simply don't work on a prepared Zerg or Toss player. I'm only Bronze league, so the second possibility is simply that I suck. :P [NT] - Jayj 13:27:42 03/11/10 (7)
    - I wonder about you having said brood lords didn't help you, I've seen a couple videos on youtube of brood lords just obliterating Terran ground forces (although in those cases the terrans had siege tanks, which are rendered a pretty huge liability by the nature of the brood lord's attack) [NT] - Fron@Work 13:58:14 03/11/10 (2)
      - Well, all things being equal, by the time you built up to brood lords, a terran player should be nearing the top of his tech tree as well, which means BATTLECRUISERS! [NT] - Vektor 14:24:32 03/11/10 (1)
        Not necessarily. The good players appear to choose teching as a response to a particular situation in which they need/want specific advanced units, they won't just gradually move towards having battlecruisers as a default. [NT] - Fron 19:02:35 03/11/10 (0)
    - It could also be simple statistical bias. All the good players started protoss because of the early pre-nerf power they had, or zerg to counter the protoss (roaches were a hard counter to early zealots as I recall). They remain most familiar and skilled with their race of choice and continue playing it until there's a strong reason not to. Ergo, bias toward protoss/zerg in high level players. - Vektor 13:57:39 03/11/10 (1)
      - They see, pretty balanced on high level... - Eye of the Night 14:07:33 03/11/10 (0)
    - Sounds like Mana could shed some light on it, then... [NT] - Eye of the Night 13:31:55 03/11/10 (1)
      - I'm not really sure why Terrans are losing a bit more. Could be that Protoss/Zerg are more popular/more practiced. Could be that Terrans play differently than they used to. Could be anything. [NT] - Mana 15:49:28 03/11/10 (0)
- Yeah, Terrans have been my most effective race to use. I continue to keep trying Protoss but I don't seem to be getting any better with them and will probably switch back to Terrans soon [NT] - Kalledon 09:07:58 03/11/10 (1)
  - I haven't spent that much time with the 'toss. I do love me some Terran. I should get some unranked games in as 'toss though, so I get more familiar with their build order and techs. [NT] - Vektor 09:23:00 03/11/10 (0)
- That does sound awesome, although Terrans do seem nasty. [NT] - Lothos 02:02:01 03/11/10 (0)
Surprising no one, Monkey Island 2 Special Edition: - Fron 23:03:52 03/10/10 (2)
- Woo! [NT] - Corporal Donkeybutter 12:39:38 03/11/10 (0)
- Awesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawes omeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomea wesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeaweso meawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeaw esomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesom eawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawe someawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesome [NT] - Grorx awesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesomeawesome 01:08:22 03/11/10 (0)
Happy 70th birthday, Chuck Norris. Keep on kicking death's ass into submission! - The Man with the Platinum Gun 22:04:07 03/10/10 (0)
If I threw out the idea of BW, with possible voice communication via Skype, in about 4ish hours from now, would anyone be interested? [NT] - Lothos 20:46:29 03/10/10 (18)
- I went to bed at 9:00 p.m. Don't know what happened. [NT] - El Cazador 07:30:59 03/11/10 (0)
- Yes [nt] - Midnight 00:01:47 03/11/10 (2)
  - So while sitting around waiting to see if anyone would come to bnet, I got bored, and I tabbed out and launched the SC2 beta. I have both running in the background, swapping between easily. Its like getting a mom and her daughter at the same, but with Starcraft [nt] - Midnight 00:26:27 03/11/10 (1)
    - *Slow applause.* [NT] - Lothos 01:33:47 03/11/10 (0)
- When I used to play BW every week, we used Teamspeak. [NT] - Ishpeck 22:37:29 03/10/10 (1)
  - Do not have same. Have Skype. Also extremely lazy. You see my dilemma? [NT] - Lothos (More seriously, I'll check it out.) 22:43:34 03/10/10 (0)
- If it actually is 2am EST, then I could do it. [nt] - Kainoss 20:51:32 03/10/10 (6) [IMP]
  - Neat, although don't damage your sleep patterns. I can always try again later, it's not as if BW is going to evaporate on us. [NT] - Lothos 21:00:00 03/10/10 (5)
    - I finish work at 12am, and get home at around 1am, going to sleep between 2-3am, so it's not an issue for me. [nt] - Kainoss 21:01:01 03/10/10 (4) [IMP]
      - For future reference, this is extremely handy. Unfortunately, I've just realised the extent to which I should knuckle down and do PhDery. So alas, no gaming for me tonight despite the fact it was my bright idea. [NT] - Lothos 21:12:11 03/10/10 (3)
        You bastard, I got my hopes all up [nt] - Midnight 00:14:13 03/11/10 (1)
        Sorry about that! [NT] - Lothos 01:33:09 03/11/10 (0)
        Oh come on. PhDery can ALWAYS wait until tomorrow. [NT] - Ravil 21:19:13 03/10/10 (0)
- I wonder if my old copy (1999) still works. If it does, then I might be able to play later this week, even at 2am. Not tonight though. [NT] - Ravil 20:49:49 03/10/10 (2)
  - If you've got the key at least you can get a new battle.net account and use it there to download the game if your disc is damaged [NT] - CyberCpeed 23:21:41 03/10/10 (0)
  - Whoo for potential gaming later! [NT] - Lothos 20:51:20 03/10/10 (0)
- That's like 2am here so, not so much. [NT] - Fron 20:47:58 03/10/10 (1)
  - That's... not unreasonable. [NT] - Lothos 20:49:45 03/10/10 (0)
This place is kinda boring now. You post something then a day later its still near the top of the forum. Where'd Namrok go with his endless profane and eye searing images? [NT] - Bandy 16:24:46 03/10/10 (24) [IMP]
- Well, he went and became a JoystickJing Success Machine and forgot about us. We miss you Nammy! [NT] - Psycho Sam! 18:39:43 03/10/10 (3)
  - I thought he became a Successful JoystickJing Machine.... [NT] - Dark Nexus 19:36:35 03/10/10 (2)
    - Perhaps he was just sucessful JoystickJing machines. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 19:45:04 03/10/10 (1)
      - Grammar fail, but I knew what you meant. [NT] - Dark Nexus 20:30:29 03/10/10 (0)
- It's been all downhill since the MissCheetah debacle. [NT] - Mana 17:26:58 03/10/10 (14)
  - I thought that was hilarious. [NT] - Thorkos 09:42:53 03/11/10 (3) [IMP]
    - I thought it was in poor taste, but I guess it's different when it's one of your friends... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 15:23:50 03/11/10 (2)
      - Anyone who digitizes themselves in any state of undress and makes it available to even a single other individual can and should expect anyone who is even remotely aware of his/her existence to have seen it within 48 hours. (Special thanks to whatever CWALer edited out the naughty parts for me so I could view Namrok's awesome facial expressions.) [NT] - Mana 18:09:02 03/11/10 (1)
        I am quite proud of my facials. [NT] - Namrok 19:41:16 03/11/10 (0)
  - wut [NT] - Bandy 18:48:33 03/10/10 (9) [IMP]
    - Yeah you missed it, there were bewbs. [NT] - The V Man 19:22:49 03/10/10 (8)
      - And Namrok's horrible... smiling face... I still have nightmares, sometimes. [NT] - Psycho Sam! 19:24:03 03/10/10 (7)
        I still can't believe I missed that. [NT] - Ravil 20:47:16 03/10/10 (2)
        Give me your email address, lol... [NT] - Rotten 11:17:40 03/11/10 (1)
        Too lazy to check the contact list? [NT] - Corporal Donkeybutter 12:41:17 03/11/10 (0)
        He mostly comes out at night. Mostly. [NT] - Lothos 19:24:51 03/10/10 (3)
        I'm choking with laughter now. Thank you! [NT] - The V Man 21:09:18 03/10/10 (1)
        *bows* [NT] - Lothos 02:12:32 03/11/10 (0)
        AAAaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!! [NT] - Psycho Sam! 19:27:05 03/10/10 (0)
- You can find my latest eye searing exploits on porntube. [NT] - Namrok 16:44:25 03/10/10 (0)
- Just say something about global warming, you'll generate an easy three or four pages. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 16:30:24 03/10/10 (1)
  - We're mostly defined by our rage now. [NT] - Fr. 19:01:52 03/10/10 (0)
- We're all too busy living out those images now. [NT] - Lord Yuppie 16:25:50 03/10/10 (0)
Oh noes, no more Civ Road Madness! - Grorx 14:20:59 03/10/10 (8) [IMP]
- ...but I covered my continents and islands with roads for efficient troop movements, forget aesthetics. If there is a movement bonus for having them, and I decide where to put them, they'll still be everywhere. Unless they actively penalize me for doing so. [NT] - TheDeamon 20:57:29 03/10/10 (6)
  - But if you cover every square with roads, the Planet will get angry at you and start JoystickJing your JoystickJ up with giant horrifying FUNGAL WORMS [NT] - Vektor 09:03:33 03/11/10 (5)
    - I don't remember the planet caring about roads, it was the other terraforming that pissed it off. [NT] - TheDeamon 11:24:15 03/11/10 (4)
      - well didn't you have to clear fungus to make roads? [NT] - Vektor 14:53:24 03/11/10 (2)
        At first, yeah. Eventually you get a tech that lets you put roads on fungus. - Legacy 14:55:25 03/11/10 (1)
        I think you could put road on fungus before SMAX, but I'm not certain. I'd be very surprised if you couldn't though. - Tssha 15:37:44 03/11/10 (0)
      - According to the in-game help, Planet /did/ care about roads just as much as it did farms, mines, and solar collectors. It's just that roads aren't that big of a proportional increase over those three, and they do nothing to affect mineral-usage-based econ damage. So while Planet cares, adding a road doesn't make it care enough /more/ for it to matter most of the time. [NT] - Legacy 14:53:20 03/11/10 (0)
- Settlers of Catan mod? [NT] - Steamtrap Entity 16:21:07 03/10/10 (0)
Is there any reason to install Win7 32-bit, if you have access to 64-bit? Does 64-bit cause more problems with earlier software? Also, does anyone know if the Ultimate edition has both 32 and 64-bit versions on one disc? I'm contemplating Arring an ISO claiming to do exactly that, so... [NT] - Lothos 14:16:38 03/10/10 (10)
- Don't waste your time w/32-bit. Go 64. [NT] - Ishpeck 22:37:05 03/10/10 (0)
- 64 is seemless unless you run some strange, archaic software that requires 16-bit mode to run. [NT] - Bandy 16:01:33 03/10/10 (2) [IMP]
  - I'll never play Twinsen's Odyssey again. :-( [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 16:35:13 03/10/10 (1)
    - Virtual machines are your friends. [NT] - Eye of the Night 18:12:11 03/10/10 (0)
- Not really. Some 16-bit programs don't work natively, but a lot of them work in DOSbox. Also, not all hardware has 64-bit drivers available, and some software also makes use of drivers - which may not be 64-bit. But those are but minor inconveniences. [NT] - Eye of the Night 15:10:53 03/10/10 (1)
  - While this is true, it's worth noting that 64-bit Vista drivers work perfectly (most of the time) under 7. Though it's true that most companies who bothered releasing Vista 64 drivers would do the same for 7, there may be a few that haven't gotten around to it yet (or discontinued the product and isn't providing driver updates). [NT] - Bandy 16:05:47 03/10/10 (0) [IMP]
- I'm running it at work and nearly everything works with it (but not exactly everything). The increase in memory is well worth it. [NT] - Rotten 14:43:39 03/10/10 (0)
- I've been running it x64 for over a year now (beta, RC and released version) and have never had an issue with it. [NT] - Arcturus 14:41:39 03/10/10 (0)
- I've not had any issues on x64. It handles things fairly well with older apps. And as far as I know there are discs contain both 32 and 64 bit versions (though the version I have is 64bit only from MSDN). [NT] - The V Man 14:22:51 03/10/10 (0)
- 16-bit software no longer works at all on Win64, so pre-Windows 95 software won't run. This is unlikely to be a problem. Some installers from the Win9x era are 16-bit even though the software itself is 32-bit, but I believe there are specific workarounds built into Win7 to deal with this. The retail Ultimate edition has separate discs for 32- and 64-bit. - Fron 14:22:39 03/10/10 (0)
In Russia - diefortheswarm 13:22:50 03/10/10 (2)
- I think I hear Ishpeck JoystickJming somewhere. [NT] - Lord Yuppie 13:23:33 03/10/10 (1)
  - To the picture of a man who's skin looks like a big sack dJoystickJd loosely over a skeleton. [NT] - Ishpeck 22:38:13 03/10/10 (0)
It's funny that so many years and so many discussions later, you're still using the same rubber room script with some random features tacked on. Tell me, do the mods still have to manually prune it to prevent it from breaking? [NT] - Bandy 11:34:23 03/10/10 (15) [IMP]
- I rewrote it completely from scratch a year and a half ago, actually. And no, they don't. [NT] - Fron 11:37:34 03/10/10 (14)
  - What is funnier is checking the forum archives and seeing him making posts about exploring the new features in your forum re-write... from about that time. [NT] - TheDeamon 20:49:13 03/10/10 (3)
    - It's still not as funny as http://forum.cwal.net/message.php?p=25400 [NT] - Fron 23:10:54 03/10/10 (2)
      - Indeed, considering you were already working on the current version by then. [NT] - TheDeamon 00:25:56 03/11/10 (1)
        We were in final stage testing at that point, even. [NT] - Fron@Work 09:00:44 03/11/10 (0)
  - We should go back to the old script and hire people to trim it to help stimulate the economy. [NT] - Rotten 13:35:39 03/10/10 (2)
    - Broken windows fallacy. [NT] - Fron 14:00:39 03/10/10 (1)
      - LETS GO BREAK WINDOWS SO OBAMA HAS SOMETHING TO KEEP HIMSELF BUSY ONCE WE RUN THE BUGGER OUT OF OFFICE! HE TERK UR JERB! [NT] - BANDY 16:08:30 03/10/10 (0) [IMP]
  - Well that's nifty [NT] - Bandy 11:42:45 03/10/10 (6) [IMP]
    - It is, actually! It's sort of like someone creating a high-end, sleek computer that, on the outside, appears to be a laptop from the early nineties. [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 15:55:19 03/10/10 (0)
    - This is easily the most advanced this type of forum on the internet, it is. [NT] - Corporal Donkeybutter 11:54:47 03/10/10 (4)
      - It says something about how long this design has been out of favour that "uses a relational database" is probably sufficient to make my implementation the most advanced. [NT] - Fron 23:13:02 03/10/10 (0)
      - That was an awkward sentence to read [NT] - CyberCpeed 12:17:47 03/10/10 (2)
        I am here only to cause you pain. - Psycho Sam! 19:24:41 03/10/10 (1)
        OH GOD WHY [NT] - CyberCpeed 23:26:14 03/10/10 (0)
Is everyone with SC2 Beta on the Contact list? I know JayJ has it and he isn't on the list. Are there others? [NT] - Kalledon 10:26:26 03/10/10 (0)
[Starcraft II] Kalledon's Starcraft II Update #5 [/Starcraft II] - Kalledon 10:01:48 03/10/10 (7)
- [VIDS] Video of the match within - Kalledon 13:33:57 03/10/10 (1)
  - Looks like they didn't keep enough air defence against the void rays, after sending out that attack party... [NT] - Eye of the Night 18:28:55 03/10/10 (0)
- Yeah, protoss usually goes 2x gateway early from what I understand, although early void rays are something I've seen my fair share of. [NT] - Vektor 10:09:06 03/10/10 (4)
  - I'll start out with one, but depending on what I scout I'll build a second gateway early. About early-mid game I'll have three warp gates regardless of what else I'm doing. [NT] - Mana 13:16:17 03/10/10 (3)
    - Specifically, if I see any hint of a Roach Warren vs Zerg, I'll stick to one gateway for a while and rush to Immortals. If I see early-gas from a Terran and tech labs, I pretty much assume a reaver rush and start getting early stalkers. If I'm against protoss, it's a 3-warp gate JoystickJ fest for the early to mid game anyway. [NT] - Mana 13:23:32 03/10/10 (2)
      - Gas & Tech Labs could be M&M too. Although this has inspired me to try a reaper rush vs. protoss again. [NT] - Vektor 17:27:04 03/10/10 (0)
Happy birthday Kainoss, and also Pez! [NT] - Okama Gamesphere 09:31:14 03/10/10 (1)
- Thanks to you too. [nt] - Kainoss 12:06:40 03/10/10 (0)
Happy Birthday Kainoss! [NT] - Grorx 09:04:10 03/10/10 (1)
- Aw, thanks [nt] - Kainoss 12:06:26 03/10/10 (0)
Watch out for the mothership - Eye of the Night 06:28:29 03/10/10 (4)
- I've never seen a mothership actually enter play. [NT] - Vektor 08:50:31 03/10/10 (3)
  - I produced one once, but the game was already over and I was just doing it to see the unit rather then an attempt to turn the tides [NT] - Kalledon 08:52:12 03/10/10 (2)
    - The mothership is a lifesaver in mid-to-late game. I sometimes will just keep it at home so I feel safe sending my entire army out to take out an expansion; if the opponent decides to counterattack my base while my army is away, I can just teleport them all home. [NT] - Mana 11:36:11 03/10/10 (1)
      - Not to mention being able to take half of your opponent's army out of the game for 20 seconds! [NT] - Mana 11:37:04 03/10/10 (0)
Apparently, Harry Reid's nickname is now Scooby Doo. I guess that makes Dubya, Old Man Withers, the guy who runs the amusement park. - The Man with the Platinum Gun 01:21:40 03/10/10 (3)
- Happy Feet was alright, but I preferred Surf's Up [NT] - djmmm 12:32:07 03/10/10 (0)
- Dubya is long gone, dude. [NT] - Rotten 08:35:56 03/10/10 (1)
  - Old Man Withers never dies! He merely finds a new amusement park to haunt! [NT] - Lord Yuppie 13:22:47 03/10/10 (0)
Vektor's Starcraft 2 update #2 - Vektor 00:13:57 03/10/10 (10)
- One thing to keep in mind with Zerg larvae - Kalledon 08:07:34 03/10/10 (4)
  - It's 4 larvae that mature over a course of 40 seconds. So there's quite a bit of wiggle room there. I mentioned that in passing when I said something about the Queen's larvae ability. [NT] - Vektor 08:51:59 03/10/10 (2)
    - I have not been keeping track of things religiously but I generally regarded the queen as worthless in SC1, she get a makeover for SC2? [NT] - Lord Yuppie 16:43:23 03/10/10 (1)
      - It's a completely different unit, essentially. Instead of a tier-2 flying spellcaster, it's a tier-1 land defense/production support unit. [NT] - Fron 17:05:26 03/10/10 (0)
- I hate reaver rushes as Protoss. They can really throw me off my game. [NT] - Mana 01:44:12 03/10/10 (4)
  - How do those generally go? Opponent using a small number of reapers early to jet up a ledge and past your defenses into your probes? It seems that would be a cost-effective way to do economic damage early. My problem is that early game infrastructure building is important, and I tend to have a hard time maintaining focus between an early attempt at economic damage and building out my own stuff. [NT] - Vektor 02:07:33 03/10/10 (3)
    - Pretty much what they do. If I smell any sign of early reapers, I have to rush to Stalkers and place them strategically where I think the reapers will come in. Sometimes I can set up a little trap, but good players can have them on your ass before your first stalker. They kite zealots effortlessly. [NT] - Mana 11:35:12 03/10/10 (0)
    - Same. Once I start moving units around I suddenly realize I have a ton of cash piling up cause I'm not producing any more. My micromanagement skills are sub par [NT] - Kalledon 09:58:09 03/10/10 (1)
      - Key-bind your unit producing buildings. - Thorkos 10:23:43 03/10/10 (0) [IMP]
I just made a twitter account on a lark and now I can't think of any use for it beyond having more convenient access to funny things that Ryan North and Kate Beaton say. [NT] - Fron 23:01:50 03/09/10 (5)
- I refuse. Besides I can't ever say that I had posted something on Twitter in past tense in Polite company. [NT] - The V Man 09:35:02 03/10/10 (0)
- Yeah, I haven't even touched mine in months... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 06:27:12 03/10/10 (0)
- I've found I only really enjoy reading tweets from people I know personally, so I dropped all the celebrities / businesses from my follow list. [NT] - Arcturus 00:18:47 03/10/10 (1)
  - Twitter actually allows you to make lists now. When I add people, their either go in the list for celebs and people I'm generally a fan of (Adam Savage, Phil Plait, Neil Gaiman, Weird Al, etc.), a list for publications (tweets from things like Make Magazine or other non-person accounts) or "People I know" which is self-explanatory. - Vektor 00:45:48 03/10/10 (0)
- Also: Weird Al, Conan O'Brien [NT] - Vektor 23:40:52 03/09/10 (0)
Since gay people are (thankfully) able to marry in Mexico City and Washington, D.C., will Ottawa be next? - The Man with the Platinum Gun 21:08:53 03/09/10 (16)
- You should focus on killing towel heads. It is clearly the only thing you are good at. [NT] - diefortheswarm 22:16:17 03/09/10 (2)
  - I'm rather focused on making gay marriage legal in Baghdad and Kabul. [nt] - The Man with the Platinum Gun 01:01:27 03/10/10 (0)
  - Plus it's so much funner [NT] - Rotten 22:57:21 03/09/10 (0)
- You're a statist. [NT] - Ishpeck 22:13:51 03/09/10 (2)
  - In case there's any misunderstanding, my post was supposed to be pro-gay marriage. [nt] - The Man with the Platinum Gun 22:34:29 03/09/10 (1)
    - I know. It makes you a statist. [NT] - Ishpeck 22:42:31 03/10/10 (0)
- I too fail to understand this remark. [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 22:12:15 03/09/10 (0)
- Uh..... Yeah, gay people have been able to get married in Ottawa for a few years now. [NT] - Dark Nexus 21:14:05 03/09/10 (1)
  - So, no. Ottawa will definitely not be next. [NT] - Fron 21:51:09 03/09/10 (0)
- There's this weird Newfie who sits outside on the lawn in front of Parliament every day with his "BAN GAY MARRIAGE" and "THE ONLY GAY MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN" signs. I derive pleasure from occasionally stopping by to call him a faggot. [NT] - Ravil 21:13:29 03/09/10 (6)
  - This reminds me, we (CWALers in Ottawa) must CONGREGATE at some point. [NT] - Dark Nexus 21:16:03 03/09/10 (5)
    - I was wondering what was going on with that! [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 22:12:42 03/09/10 (4)
      - I'm, um, actually leaving for Kingston again on Thursday. But I'll be back! I just don't know precisely when yet. [NT] - Ravil 23:17:10 03/09/10 (3)
        Did folks actually get together and I just missed it, or something? [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 10:12:44 03/10/10 (1)
        You guys totally did get together and just ditched me, didn't you? I KNEW IT [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 15:55:57 03/10/10 (0)
        I'm not going anywhere, so I'm game! [nt] - Kainoss 00:03:35 03/10/10 (0)
[Starcraft II] Kalledon's Starcraft II Update #4 (Now with video) [/Starcraft II] - Kalledon 20:50:51 03/09/10 (18)
- Neat to see how they've upgraded the zerg graphically. Even more organic-y and creepy (pardon the pun) now. Also, have siege tanks fallen by the wayside, or just become defensive units? [NT] - Grorx 09:32:12 03/10/10 (9)
  - I see some terrans using them offensively. If you get a drop ship you can still drop a handful of siege tanks into an enemy base to cause a ruckus. I personally prefer to use them defensively and go for Thors offensively [NT] - Kalledon 09:55:42 03/10/10 (7)
    - Every time I see someone mention a Thor now, my old WoW mentality kicks in: Thor-KoS (Kill those damn Thors on-sight). I was part of a PvP guild on Kel'Thuzad, and we were on quite a few Horde KoS lists apparently. [NT] - Thorkos 12:50:36 03/10/10 (1)
      - And yes, this wasn't even remotely important, but I felt like sharing. [NT] - Thorkos 12:51:46 03/10/10 (0)
    - I'll usually park a pair near a base's chokepoint if I'm expecting incoming just for fire support. They actually deal reasonable damage vs. armored targets, too. I've only ever used them as part of mixed forces though, never en masse. [NT] - Vektor 10:01:28 03/10/10 (4)
      - Even away from ramps? Some deployed siege tanks combined with aerial units to make the targets visible can really wreak havoc... isn't that still viable in SC2? [NT] - Eye of the Night 10:41:27 03/10/10 (3)
        Particularly with the splash damage, as I saw large clumps of hydralisks in the vid that could be decimated by siege tanks... [NT] - Eye of the Night 10:42:54 03/10/10 (2)
        It's viable. But as you saw, mass Thors ripped through the lisks pretty easily as well. The Thors are quicker to setup too as they move straight in, plus they can attack air as well as ground, where as the siege tank has to rely on support for air procection [NT] - Kalledon 11:07:10 03/10/10 (1)
        Well, thors are more of an investment than seige tanks. In general though, static defenses aren't necessarily always your best option. I find you want to have decently mobilized forces to be able to directly counterattack after an opponent hits your units, as that's when they're likely to be weakest. It lets you keep pressure on them and prevents them from sitting idle and out-teching you. - Vektor 15:47:10 03/10/10 (0)
  - Zerglings also have cute little wings now. - Vektor 09:51:18 03/10/10 (0)
- I loved the end. Nothing like seeing that much hardware inflict that much destruction. - Tssha 01:58:31 03/10/10 (4)
  - I found that on that particular map where you have such a long open space, it's impossible to completely wall in so that loop was quite nice and it forced the melee to get close to the Planetary Fortress cannon. [NT] - Kalledon 08:04:17 03/10/10 (3)
    - It's harder to wall in the natural expansions from the get-go. I'm surprised you did that. Terran usually walls off the entrance to their start zone with a barracks and couple of depots from the start to keep scouts out. - Vektor 09:09:00 03/10/10 (2)
      - I wasn't up-to-knowing on Hellion usage. I only took to in that game just cause they were quick and cheap to produce and I was waiting on a Thor in the other Machine bay [NT] - Kalledon 09:57:11 03/10/10 (1)
        S'why it pays to have multiple production buildings. And the reactors that let a single building produce two of its basic units are sometimes great (at least for pumping out marines) [NT] - Vektor 10:06:51 03/10/10 (0)
- Match thoughts and spoilers. - Mana 22:22:20 03/09/10 (2)
  - Fraps settings question - Kalledon 08:03:14 03/10/10 (1)
    - Other than saving as HD and recording at half-resolution, just try recording at 30 FPS if at all possible. You're probably pushing your laptop to its limit while recording, though, so I think that's the best we're going to get. [NT] - Mana 10:54:38 03/10/10 (0)
Would you know Hitler's face if he settled in western Canada!?! - Fron 20:49:01 03/09/10 (6)
- I don't think I would to be honest. [NT] - The V Man 09:35:39 03/10/10 (0)
- Well, I would *now* [NT] - Dark Nexus 22:47:18 03/09/10 (0)
- Chef Hitler Best Hitler. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 21:51:13 03/09/10 (2)
  - I love dejected Hobo Hitler. [NT] - Sensitive Meat for Gentlemen 22:35:52 03/09/10 (1)
    - I guess we can agree that even though they are all different in their own way, each Hitler has a unique and important role in the tapestry of fascism. [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 22:38:20 03/09/10 (0)
- Bwahaha! [NT] - Ravil 21:03:46 03/09/10 (0)
Fron! Are you working on that Key Lime Pie? [NT] - Psycho Sam! 19:51:18 03/09/10 (0)
I give you an animated cop/disaster flick rendered entirely from corporate logos and trademarks. - Vektor 17:30:49 03/09/10 (1)
- It won the Oscar for animated short, and everyone seems to love it, but I don't understand why? It's not bad, I just don't get the love. [NT] - Steamtrap Entity 18:07:28 03/09/10 (0)
Query: Hypothetically, if one were immigrating into Canada, how would healthcare work during that process? ie, you're living and (hopefully) working in Canadistan, but aren't citizens yet. [NT] - Lothos 16:59:09 03/09/10 (19)
- I know a lot of international students who are either here temporarily or are becoming permanent residents, so I could ask around if you'd like. [NT] - Ravil 21:07:37 03/09/10 (7)
  - That'd be handy, actually - particularly since the Pie in the Sky scheme would be to eventually wind up in Southern Ontario. Another question would be, how does healthcare work for (potentially nonworking) spouses of people trying to immigrate? [NT] - Lothos 21:19:54 03/09/10 (6)
    - IIRC, �'s wife has (or at least had) no coverage from either the federal or provincial governments. [NT] - Dark Nexus 22:50:28 03/09/10 (5)
      - Hmm. Interesting. Did that last until citizenship happened, if it did? [NT] - Lothos 23:02:32 03/09/10 (4)
        I think that's an odd case, because I'm not sure her citizenship application ever actually happened. Someone will have to find out! [NT] - Vektor 00:22:48 03/10/10 (0)
        Not certain, but I would expect so. - Dark Nexus 23:55:29 03/09/10 (2)
        Ahhhhhhh, thanks. If there is theoretically employer cover, if varied, then that's okay - since it's very unlikely I'd be trying to immigrate without a job to go to. [NT] - Lothos 02:55:14 03/10/10 (1)
        It'd still be something to ask about when inquiring about jobs. I only suspect that most places that hire out of country would have something in place, I don't know for sure. [NT] - Dark Nexus 20:34:42 03/10/10 (0)
- Well, at least if you come to America, you KNOW where you stand! "Roll that weird-talkin' dude back into the street." Welcome! [NT] - Fr. 20:01:36 03/09/10 (0)
- Healthcare provisions for new residents are assigned based on a lottery system, consisting of roll up the rim to win cups. Hope you like coffee. [NT] - Vektor 17:32:50 03/09/10 (5)
  - "Like." [NT] - Ravil 21:06:51 03/09/10 (0)
  - Those poor souls suffering from Caffeine Addiction... They never stood a chance... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 20:03:38 03/09/10 (0)
  - Hope your luck's better than mine... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 18:49:56 03/09/10 (2)
    - hahahahahahaha [NT] - Fargoth Actually Gets His Hip Replaced This Year 18:51:38 03/09/10 (1)
      - JoystickJing Fargoth and his JoystickJing new hip... [NT] - Psycho Sam! 18:57:50 03/09/10 (0)
- Yeah, you'll want to ask someone with actual official question-answering status about that, I think. I'm inclined to guess that if you're a legal resident you get covered (you'd be paying taxes after all) but I don't really know. Also note, healthcare is a provincial thing. So look for answers at the provincial government websites, not the federal one. [NT] - Fron 17:08:35 03/09/10 (0)
- Permanent residents are applicable for government coverage. - Inconsequential Penguin 17:06:35 03/09/10 (1)
  - Also, the official side effects of immigrating to Canada: * Discomfort * Helplessness * Frustration * Fear * Insecurity * Uncertainty about how to behave * A sense that your cultural beliefs and values are being challenged * A sense that things are not predictable. ARE YOU A BAD ENOUGH DUDE TO HANDLE IT? [NT] - Inconsequential Penguin 17:14:41 03/09/10 (0)
- Protip: Don't die just yet. [NT] - Psycho Sam! 17:03:26 03/09/10 (0)